Heroes of Might and Magic 6

serraphiel · Post by **serraphiel** » Wed Aug 17, 2022 5:15 am

Sad... please make this dream happen... we wait for 10 years

and still waiting.

And it's more frustrating when we know now that it's possible, we just need a person that has the skills. First, we thought it's not possible, that the Blackhole studios made it impossible to extract the animations, but according to the latest person’s post, it is possible...

shakotay2 · Post by **shakotay2** » Wed Aug 17, 2022 7:29 am

We still lack of a gobj sample with a simpler animation than OrcWarrior.gobj.
Like a bird, as I wrote. Or maybe there's an animated book or chest? Something like that.

And, more important: it starts with the skeleton. As long as there's no skeleton (with hierarchy) nothing will happen.

TaylorMouse · Post by **TaylorMouse** » Tue Sep 06, 2022 9:49 pm

Lol, in these 10 years, you could have learned to build a model like that, and gotten rich on it by now

shakotay2 · Post by **shakotay2** » Tue Sep 06, 2022 10:07 pm

LOL, yeah, feel free to try your skills

(it's not a matter of the "models" but the animations, btw.):
.

shakotay2 wrote: ↑Sun Aug 14, 2022 11:46 am

shakotay2 wrote: ↑Sun Aug 14, 2022 3:26 pm

shakotay2 wrote: ↑Sun Aug 14, 2022 5:11 pm

And, again:
"Well, so, it would be insane to start with the OrcWarrior, imho; too many bones. Maybe a bird or something like that would do better?"

Genshinrange · Post by **Genshinrange** » Mon Feb 06, 2023 7:55 pm

shakotay2 wrote: ↑Tue Sep 06, 2022 10:07 pm LOL, yeah, feel free to try your skills (it's not a matter of the "models" but the animations, btw.):
.
shakotay2 wrote: ↑Sun Aug 14, 2022 11:46 am

shakotay2 wrote: ↑Sun Aug 14, 2022 3:26 pm

shakotay2 wrote: ↑Sun Aug 14, 2022 5:11 pm
And, again:
"Well, so, it would be insane to start with the OrcWarrior, imho; too many bones. Maybe a bird or something like that would do better?"

Sentinel or Juggernaut, at least they have similar animations from H7, which can be compared with the results if the animation export is possible.

CharlieV · Post by **CharlieV** » Tue Feb 07, 2023 4:00 am

TaylorMouse wrote: ↑Tue Sep 06, 2022 9:49 pm Lol, in these 10 years, you could have learned to build a model like that, and gotten rich on it by now

Haha good joke! As if modellers have ever been rich

But yes 10 years anything is possible if it's a priority, could have provided a simpler example as requested, could have learned to animate the models themselves which would surely be a useful modding skill, or more easily just paid someone with the skills to figure out the animations in 6 rather than waiting and hoping for a decade. Sometimes a greased palm is the only way to make things happen.

shakotay2 · Post by **shakotay2** » Tue Feb 07, 2023 9:20 am

In fact, I don'tunderstand the latest discussion. It were Genshinrange and serraphiel who digged up this thread, 10 years later.
I was the one who gave some basic infos about the anim data. Waiting for someone providing a smaller/less complex sample than OrcWarrior.gobj.

It didn't happen. You wouldn't expect ME to dig through 3421 files (most of them being .gobj files) from Data1.orc, do you?

It wasn't my request. There's smaller samples like Cyclops.gobj, vampire.gobj, Kappa.gobj for example. But really, WHY should I do the job of extracting .orc files and search for them? I expect samples to be given. Then I usually spend 15 min on them. It's only a hobby of mine.

If the interest had really been that intense something would have happened. (Me, I'm not too interested in HoMM6 animations, btw, just being a follower of hex2obj.

)

Just in case someone wants to give it a go, anyways, there's a demo of HoMM6 (> 4 GB). I'd like to mention that the gobj files seem to have changed a little bit (different offsets at least):
.

OrcWarrior-gobj.png

compared to

shakotay2 wrote: ↑Sun Aug 14, 2022 3:26 pm

(You can use orkdec.exe from Aluigi to unpack .orc files. Data1.orc contains .gobj files.)

Genshinrange · Post by **Genshinrange** » Tue Feb 07, 2023 3:09 pm

shakotay2 wrote: ↑Tue Feb 07, 2023 9:20 am In fact, I don'tunderstand the latest discussion. It were Genshinrange and serraphiel who digged up this thread, 10 years later.
I was the one who gave some basic infos about the anim data. Waiting for someone providing a smaller/less complex sample than OrcWarrior.gobj.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1DUgAXO ... share_link

shakotay2 · Post by **shakotay2** » Tue Feb 07, 2023 6:26 pm

Are those two gobj from HoMM6 or 7? If the later it won't help, was discussed here:

Demonsangel wrote: ↑Tue Apr 26, 2016 4:16 pm Graphic style might be the same, but that doesn't mean the model format is the same.
That aside I never finished the animation processing for HoMM VI, because good luck getting anyone other than the Noesis author to help you with animations.

update: used the gobj plugin from demonsangel:
.

Juggernaut.png

Genshinrange · Post by **Genshinrange** » Tue Feb 07, 2023 6:49 pm

shakotay2 wrote: ↑Tue Feb 07, 2023 6:26 pm Are those two gobj from HoMM6 or 7? If the later it won't help, was discussed here:

HoMM6

shakotay2 · Post by **shakotay2** » Tue Feb 07, 2023 7:26 pm

Well, ok, then I misunderstood your "from H7" from your Monday's post.

Here's the smd from Juggernaut, 31 bones, but no names, just numbers. I'm too busy with my own concerns.
Feel free to find out what is head, calf, legs and so on (hierarchy should help):
.

Juggernautout.zip

(There's a blender smd plugin, iirc, at least for older versions, 2.72, 2.75 or so where you can select bones after smd import to find out what is what.)

After you got the bone names (or just using the numbers

) the next question pops up:

shakotay2 wrote: ↑Sun Aug 14, 2022 5:11 pmNext question to solve: which (translation) frame block belongs to which bone?

edit: If I get more motivation/spare time I could care for the ""Move" part (translation only).
Thing is that there's interpolation; 3dsmax could handle this rather simply, iirc, but I don't have it installed any more.

This is the anim list of Juggernaut.gobj:

1. size 18be6 at 58618, Attack
2. size 1ce92 at 71204, AttackCritical
3. size caeb at 8e09c, Defend
4. size 1f735 at 9ab8d, Die
5. size ec28 at ba2c8, Hit
6. size 362b at c8ef6, Idle
7. size 11bce at cc527, IdleBridge
8. size 23ad7 at de0fb, IdleSpecial

9. size 9c36 at 101bd8, Move
10. size a565 at 10b814, Run
11. size c16d at 115d7f, Turn90Left
12. size a830 at 121ef2, Turn90Right
13. size 1ef3b at 12c728, Victory

You can find these by searching for 00041030 (but there's some more findings, 68 of different strings).

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well, too annoying - problem is that there's too many blocks, 117, for (assumed) 31 bones in the Move section:

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The frame sum is 2013. That's an average of 65 frames per bone.
Tried to gather groups but seems senseless.
Well, I could check the frame time, ...

timing values don't help that much; looks like there's 117 frame blocks and I don't have any idea, why (it's for 31 bones, as you may remember):

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The clunk sizes could help, that gives less blocks:

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Demonsangel · Post by **Demonsangel** » Wed Mar 01, 2023 5:42 pm

The begging in this thread is just cringe.

Azurfan · Post by **Azurfan** » Tue Aug 08, 2023 4:37 pm

To continue with the begging: Does anyone here have a working Noesis Plugin for Heroes 6? All links seem to be dead.

Dms3ltuT · Post by **Dms3ltuT** » Thu Oct 05, 2023 8:37 pm

Azurfan wrote: ↑Tue Aug 08, 2023 4:37 pm To continue with the begging: Does anyone here have a working Noesis Plugin for Heroes 6? All links seem to be dead.

Attached.

shakotay2 · Post by **shakotay2** » Fri Oct 06, 2023 5:57 pm

Well, now that we've refeshed the script there's further good news: Bigchillghost made some valuable contributions to HOMM6 animation format:
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Bigchillghost wrote: ↑Fri Oct 06, 2023 3:07 pm

This is the anim list of Juggernaut.gobj:

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1. size 18be6 at 58618, Attack
2. size 1ce92 at 71204, AttackCritical
3. size caeb at 8e09c, Defend
4. size 1f735 at 9ab8d, Die
5. size ec28 at ba2c8, Hit
6. size 362b at c8ef6, Idle
7. size 11bce at cc527, IdleBridge
8. size 23ad7 at de0fb, IdleSpecial

9. size 9c36 at 101bd8, Move
10. size a565 at 10b814, Run
11. size c16d at 115d7f, Turn90Left
12. size a830 at 121ef2, Turn90Right
13. size 1ef3b at 12c728, Victory

You can find these by searching for 00041030 (but there's some more findings, 68 of different strings).

Maybe focus on the smallest animation, Move, and try to find out how the data is connected to the 31 bones.
You might use the gobj template for HexEdit in the above given link.

Since there's 31 "curves" (for "RUN", too) I assume each curve belongs to a bone.
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Juggernaut_move.png

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