themimegogo wrote: ↑Tue Nov 17, 2020 11:13 pm
That makes me not want to be thankful...why bother replying at all?
Being "thankful", in fact, is the only reason that you're getting any reply.
Bigchillghost wrote: ↑Mon Nov 16, 2020 2:27 pm
Never expect any "beginner tutorials" to be served. You're more intelligent than that.
It's nothing more but simply an advice for people who tend to preconceive the thing they're dealing with is complicated.
Insulting? Why should I waste most of the space rephrasing the instructions only to insult someone? Sorry if you're such a snowflake that you felt this way.
themimegogo wrote: ↑Tue Nov 17, 2020 11:13 pm
I was raised with the idea that "there's no harm in asking"
That, is a philosophy still open to questions. I never object people for asking questions, just don't come up with the first question as "where is the tutorial". Some people always tend to ask about something that they can easily solve by doing a couple of searching, or something already been instructed by the first post of a topic as if they don't see it, instead of at least trying to follow the instructions and then ask about the part they really don't understand. The first question they put up with is usually like "I'm a noob, point me right to the direction". That's the kind of manner I disapprove.
themimegogo wrote: ↑Tue Nov 17, 2020 11:13 pm
But for whatever reason - something in life must have jaded you to the point that asking not for a tutorial but to be directed to one if there is any - is something you consider an insulting act of laziness because you had to work hard to get to where you are.
I don't see any difference between "asking for a tutorial" and "to be directed to one". I wouldn't consider it as "an insulting act of laziness", but doing so even if there's enough infomation in the 1st post do seem inappropriate to me.
themimegogo wrote: ↑Tue Nov 17, 2020 11:13 pm
For example - the *** forum, have entire boards dedicated to tutorials, something that's either pinned, or in someone's signature, or! if someone does the transgression of asking - is pointed by a mod or a good Samaritan who doesn't find it heavy on their heart to copy and paste a link. In your case - a simple "there are no tutorials" will do.
Take a glance on the tutorial section on Xentax and the one through the 1st link in my signature, then we can have this conversation again. The "tutorials" are always there, and have been there for years. It's easily accessible, most of you just ignored it. In this particular situation, all you have to do is to unpack the archives with the provided scripts, and convert the mesh file with the tool. You don't need any tutorial for something that can be explained in a sentence!
themimegogo wrote: ↑Tue Nov 17, 2020 11:13 pm
I have subordinates where I work - imagine a new employee on day 1 - me telling them - go figure it out on your own. In my experience, it's been more fruitful help others - even if that help is - "the manual is in your drawer", or the on-boarding page is located here.
I respect your meticulous care to your subordinates, but explaining something that's already understandable in a "manual"/"on-boarding page", the way I see it, is a total waste of your time and that of others.
themimegogo wrote: ↑Tue Nov 17, 2020 11:13 pm
If you think your first post is user friendly Lets dissect it.
- you describe what the tool does. Alright - a couple of technical jargon that i dont immediately recognize
- Double click on the executable and follow the leads, or use batch commands. (ok I click on Say Marvel Super War)
It leads me to, what seems to be a place where I can download a game? What the hell are batch commands? Is it the same thing as batch rendering something?
I never said it was user friendly. It's never meant to be. I prefer to provide simple yet sufficient info and leave the rest to the users themselves. In this way, those with patience to finish reading the entire post get what they came for, even if they left no trace of their user identities and never thanked the author for the tools. It's a strategy to maintain a balance between "sharing with the community" and "blocking out the leeches".
The "executable" means the .exe of the program. In a world where Windows OS has been widely used, it's really hard to imagine that you'll consider an "executable" as the same meaning of a "link" to the page containing the info of the game.
"Batch commands" is a term you can look up through the wiki or any searching engine. If you're too busy for that, just ignore it. It's not the only way to use the tool.
themimegogo wrote: ↑Tue Nov 17, 2020 11:13 pm
let me check by asking if there is a more unified source of information - like a manual (or in this case) a tutorial.
If you'd asked that straightforward, i.e., "is there a more unified source of information?", you'd probably get the "No there is no tutorial" kind of reply as you wished.
themimegogo wrote: ↑Tue Nov 17, 2020 11:13 pm
Don't misunderstand - I didn't demand for one
Asking with the word "where" means you're demanding for one.
themimegogo wrote: ↑Tue Nov 17, 2020 11:13 pm
But in replying with your nose held high like that, whether you care to admit it to yourself or not - you're doing more harm to people who weren't as hardened by life like you were. Shove it up your a$$ man, if you're jaded, or your passion has been snuffed out - try not to impart that negative mantra onto others. I'm outa here.
Since you felt yourself being so much insulted, I'll try to be tolerant with these outraged accusations you made here and ignore those "unpleasant" words.
