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Re: Brute Force (XBOX 2003) - Models
Posted: Fri Jul 16, 2021 5:38 pm
by shakotay2
well, on a quick check (following DKDave) this (start of face indices, v cnt, v addr):
0. 0x290 , 38 verts at 0xb8acc
1. 0x310 , 64 verts at 0xb8e5c
2. 0x3E0 , 64 verts at 0xb945c
3. 0x4B0 , 64 verts at 0xb9a5c
4. 0x580 , 108 verts at 0xba05c
So, that's not overwhelming (from the vertex counts).
More research to be done. (My motivation? You know...
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Guess a search for 7250E71F for example (because of varying block size) could give more addresses/counts.
(Params to be used with the .ivd file, btw.)
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Re: Brute Force (XBOX 2003) - Models
Posted: Fri Jul 16, 2021 10:30 pm
by shakotay2
Picked up params of some bigger meshes (sub_mesh_no, hex_start address of FIs, dec_vertexCount, vertexStart):
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20. 45d24, 1010 at 0xe340c, correction start of FIs: 0x45d30
37. 46844, 2192 at 0x11c40c, correction start of FIs: 0x46850
38. 9150, 424 at 0x12918c
39. 9650, 632 at 0x12b94c
42. 491d8, 872 at 0x15388c
45. e3d0, 720 at 0x168f6c
47. fa70, 564 at 0x17602c
62. 15c20, 480 at 0x1ab32c
109. 527ec, 678 at 0x25ec44
112. 25240, 406 at 0x273d94
125. 27bc0, 682 at 0x29050c
160. 393b0, 415 at 0x3532ac
164. 39e30, 444 at 0x357a64
168. 3aab0, 746 at 0x35ceac
169. 3b400, 518 at 0x36149c
Rest not worth to mention.
Start address of face indices had to be corrected for some unk reason (usually start with 0000 0100 0200; maybe not always).
Also you'll need to trick around with the counts sometimes. FVFsize= 24 (or try 32)
Face_index_count: trial & error
Guess, I'm done with this format. Well, here's a Make_H2O tool:
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Re: Brute Force (XBOX 2003) - Models
Posted: Sun Jul 18, 2021 6:12 pm
by Pepsee
I really hope someone releases a script to extract these models and textures (maybe even anims), I'm willing to pay for their troubles if needed, I've been wanting these assets for a very long time..
Re: Brute Force (XBOX 2003) - Models
Posted: Tue Jul 20, 2021 1:09 am
by Ivan04
This was one of my childhood games, I'm really interested on extracting models from it too, hopefully someone's up to the task.
Re: Brute Force (XBOX 2003) - Models
Posted: Fri Sep 10, 2021 6:20 am
by manbig343
With RenderDoc Fbx Exporter and Xemu used together properly with multiple frame capturing (at least 3 or 4) using the "trigger capture" button, you can get some models from any emulated Xbox game in a 3D screenshot format with some time. It's not that great because there is no way to export the models ripped through the emulator/renderdoc with their correct UV Mapping or skeleton rig at all. It is the only tool like Ninjaripper that actually works on Xemu. You could still use these ripped models for modifcation though, and with some effort I believe then they can be made better. I'll link this piece of brutus that was ripped here for usage. It is a raw model and has been rescaled and stretched to appear more accurate, though it is not perfect whatsoever. I've managed to get flints legs, tex's body, and quite a few textures from the game using the program. It reveals all textures shown in the frame you capture, ready for converting to png/jpg as well.
Re: Brute Force (XBOX 2003) - Models
Posted: Fri Sep 10, 2021 6:21 am
by manbig343
Image preview of the Brutus file
Re: Brute Force (XBOX 2003) - Models
Posted: Sun Sep 12, 2021 10:48 pm
by manbig343
I have linked here the full 3D Model of the shotgun directly from the game, using RenderDoc.
I've accurately stretched and resized the shotgun model as close as I could. The UV Map is completely wrong, but that's it.
Re: Brute Force (XBOX 2003) - Models
Posted: Sun Sep 12, 2021 10:49 pm
by manbig343
The 3D model of the shotgun with a ripped Brutus piece, which I did not include in the .rar file because it wasn't ripped in the t-pose for some reason. But in RenderDoc the character model pieces do have a t-pose when you preview them.
Re: Brute Force (XBOX 2003) - Models
Posted: Thu Sep 16, 2021 11:48 am
by Pepsee
manbig343 wrote: ↑Sun Sep 12, 2021 10:49 pm
The 3D model of the shotgun with a ripped Brutus piece, which I did not include in the .rar file because it wasn't ripped in the t-pose for some reason. But in RenderDoc the character model pieces do have a t-pose when you preview them.
Thank you so much!! I'll be looking further into this. Sadly, the lack of UV's or textures makes this really troublesome..
Re: Brute Force (XBOX 2003) - Models
Posted: Thu Sep 16, 2021 12:40 pm
by shakotay2
uvs of static models in ivd files are easy to optain:
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Re: Brute Force (XBOX 2003) - Models
Posted: Thu Sep 16, 2021 7:43 pm
by manbig343
If the UV map is able to be somehow made to work onto the shotgun model I got, then here is the texture. I don't fully have a grasp on how all of the technical model things like that are done. Can hex2obj extract the model files as an OBJ file? because I didn't see an option. It's either Renderdoc fbx exporter or that program (if it even lets you do that) for the time being.
Re: Brute Force (XBOX 2003) - Models
Posted: Thu Sep 16, 2021 7:50 pm
by manbig343
Here is what Shea Mccombs, the person who worked on the game that had their website up with those model screenshots - had to say when I asked if the models still existed somewhere in a format that was useable or if a script existed to work with them.
This might be helpful to know.
Re: Brute Force (XBOX 2003) - Models
Posted: Thu Sep 16, 2021 11:53 pm
by shakotay2
manbig343 wrote: ↑Thu Sep 16, 2021 7:43 pm
If the UV map is able to be somehow made to work onto the shotgun model I got, then here is the texture.
Usually I don't care for weapons.
But well, to help you step in into the format: I'd need the info in which ivd file that gun is to be found?
Can hex2obj extract the model files as an OBJ file? because I didn't see an option.
Use File\SaveAs mesh
(suiting params required, of course, addresses and counts for vertices and face indices, FVFsize)
btw, I noticed a difference between the count of objects (derived from the count of signature findings in an xbm file) and the (bigger) count of sub meshes (derived from 000001000200 findings in the belonging ivd file).
(Maybe it's just that objects may have several sub meshes each but someone should have a look on this.)
Or it's this problem?
DKDave wrote: ↑Mon Feb 01, 2021 11:36 pmParts of these xmb files are obfuscated, so not sure how to parse them to get to the file table, but it might help.
Minor problem is some superfluous faces/solved:
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manbig343 wrote: ↑Thu Sep 16, 2021 7:50 pm
Here is what Shea Mccombs, the person who worked on the game that had their website up with those model screenshots - had to say
Still active? Funny!
Re: Brute Force (XBOX 2003) - Models
Posted: Fri Sep 17, 2021 2:13 am
by manbig343
As I mentioned previously, I'm simply cheating my way into getting these models out of the game by using renderdoc fbx exporter, while emulating the game and just ripping the models through the program.
The shotgun model itself I know for a fact is loaded in the second level of the game, since Brutus uses it. I'll link the ivd for the second level's 2nd chapter for you to see if you can find it there. I had taken the shotgun model by using renderdoc fbx. Same way like I took half of Brutus' model.
What's weird is in renderdoc it shows the character/model perfectly normal. But when you export it, the exported FBX model is a flat mirrored 2D mesh. Which is strange, I wonder if there was a fix made that someone has but never released.
The shotgun should be in this file.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/17Vk9A5 ... sp=sharing
Re: Brute Force (XBOX 2003) - Models
Posted: Fri Sep 17, 2021 1:40 pm
by Pepsee
manbig343 wrote: ↑Thu Sep 16, 2021 7:50 pm
Here is what Shea Mccombs, the person who worked on the game that had their website up with those model screenshots - had to say when I asked if the models still existed somewhere in a format that was useable or if a script existed to work with them.
This might be helpful to know.
It's really nice that the devs are finding out about the fact that it has a fanbase that although probably not that large as others, is still alive and kicking.
Looking forward to how this develops!