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Re: Extracting simple models
Posted: Mon Oct 02, 2017 7:44 pm
by gofocd
can you help me with this file, I have see many cases but I cant, it is from halo wars big endian can you help me.
Re: Extracting simple models
Posted: Tue Oct 03, 2017 9:21 am
by shakotay2
there were about 59 people killed in Vegas yesterday so you'll excuse me ignoring this request for rifles...
Re: Extracting simple models
Posted: Tue Oct 03, 2017 8:03 pm
by gofocd
shakotay2 wrote:there were about 59 people killed in Vegas yesterday so you'll excuse me ignoring this request for rifles...
I apologize if I offended you, I chose this file because I think it is simple and a better way to learn and extract the other files by myself.
I have seen the other examples that you have done with big endian files but I can not extract it.
please correct me
start of vertices: 0x2f90 or 0x2fc0
Startaddress of first face index: 0x38c0
Resulting FIs count: 666
I'm stuck here.
Re: Extracting simple models
Posted: Thu Oct 05, 2017 1:51 pm
by SchnelleMeyer
Trying to extract some characters from a game, but I cant make sense of the structure at all -So I am just guessing the adresses.
Would this be something Hex2Obj is capable of extracting?
Could someone provide some advise for adresses please?
Re: Extracting simple models
Posted: Thu Oct 05, 2017 2:31 pm
by Acewell
gofocd wrote:can you help me with this file, I have see many cases but I cant, it is from halo wars big endian can you help me.
not big-endian me thinks, and low poly looking
battle_rifle_01_ugx.png
Re: Extracting simple models
Posted: Thu Oct 05, 2017 10:25 pm
by gofocd
AceWell wrote:not big-endian me thinks, and low poly looking
Thank you very much.
I am applying the same logic in this one(beam_rifle) but I do not get it.
What am I doing wrong?
0x3A00------588
10----------- 99<--- I do not understand this one.
0x31C0------208
please ace xd.
Re: Extracting simple models
Posted: Thu Oct 05, 2017 11:06 pm
by shakotay2
SchnelleMeyer wrote:Would this be something Hex2Obj is capable of extracting?
it's not a matter of its capability, it's a matter of your creativity.
Trying out a point cloud, too tired to care fore face indicies:
muja.jpg
Re: Extracting simple models
Posted: Fri Oct 06, 2017 12:04 am
by SchnelleMeyer
it's not a matter of its capability, it's a matter of your creativity.
- LOL
- My creativity did indeed get some new energy now that you showed that extracting from this file format actually could be done.
Great news! - I will keep tinkering with it. - Thanks for a great new start.
Re: Extracting simple models
Posted: Fri Oct 06, 2017 4:03 pm
by Acewell
gofocd wrote:I am applying the same logic in this one(beam_rifle) but I do not get it.
What am I doing wrong?
you were very close, just had the wrong FVF size, it should be 24 in this sample
beam_rifle_01_ugx.png
Re: Extracting simple models
Posted: Sat Oct 07, 2017 1:58 pm
by SchnelleMeyer
In my last posted file and the one in this post - I get what seems like a good point cloud with verts correctly placed.
- What I don't understand is how the point cloud could be good, but the faces are all jumbled up?
The one in this post I have not yet located the UVs, but I am pretty sure I got the FI and verts start adr right so why this result:
Jumbled%20faces.jpg
Re: Extracting simple models
Posted: Sat Oct 07, 2017 1:59 pm
by SchnelleMeyer
The file
Re: Extracting simple models
Posted: Sat Oct 07, 2017 5:38 pm
by shakotay2
SchnelleMeyer wrote:- What I don't understand is how the point cloud could be good, but the faces are all jumbled up?
wrong start of vertices, wrong FVF size, quads, combined face indices (for vertices/uvs), there's some possible reasons...
Sometimes it's a riddle to be solved.
(Seems it's time to implement a "shifting vertices start" but I'm too busy with a myriad of other things.)
Re: Extracting simple models
Posted: Sat Oct 07, 2017 5:53 pm
by SchnelleMeyer
shakotay2 wrote:wrong start of vertices, wrong FVF size, quads, combined face indices (for vertices/uvs), there's some possible reasons...
Sometimes it's a riddle to be solved.
Allright, I know for the car model that I have the wrong start adr of the vertices and I can rule out the other things you mentioned:D
File is sequential, no quads (would be rare for game models I think), UVs and vers are not combined..
Re: Extracting simple models
Posted: Sat Oct 07, 2017 7:27 pm
by SchnelleMeyer
Got it down now. Only UVs have some unwanted long lines.
good mesh Uvs need tuning.PNG
Re: Extracting simple models
Posted: Sat Oct 07, 2017 8:35 pm
by shakotay2
SchnelleMeyer wrote:Got it down now.
Great!
(One of a thousand who understands how to use the tool.
)
Only UVs have some unwanted long lines.
yep, have a look at
testUVs.obj - that's strange...
[...]
v 0.902396 0.752382 0.0
v 0.646514 0.752329 0.0
v -43.591232 42.195259 0.0
v -44.017876 42.181988 0.0
v -44.092621 44.584675 0.0
v 0.634765 0.693675 0.0
v 0.616010 0.697266 0.0
btw: it's 'v' instead of 'vt' because it was the simplest way for me to get the uvs displayed (as faked vertices)
manual correction:
car_plymouth_old.jpg