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Alsair wrote:This code should work with the skeletons + .bsc files I've included in my main post.

MrAdults wrote:It's a vicious cycle.

shakotay2 wrote:Hehehe, I really hope Alsair becoming your fellow Noesis follower who will create a Noesis documentation thread where he will present a collection of links to all your valuable comments you've given so far on rapi functions.

Alsair, will you?

MrAdults wrote:NoeBone takes a string and/or an index to specify parent, for convenience. This way you can have it match bone hierarchies by names or by index. You're trying to pass in an int for the string argument, you rather want:

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b = NoeBone(bc, boneNames[bc], NoeMat43(list(k)), None, bc)

However, that means you're passing in the the bone's index as its parent index, which translates to "no parent", so rpgMultiplyBones will hand you back the same matrices you passed it. You'll need to use the correct hierarchy, unless there really are no parents, which means your bones are all in correct space already, not needing to be multiplied and not needing to be put in parent-local space. (since they have no parents)

When I refer to model space, bone-local space, etc., I'm talking about coordinate systems, not binary locations. So the animation data being in a different file doesn't have anything to do with what space things are in.

All the documentation there is on the Python API is in the __NPReadMe.txt file. I've been too lazy to make real documentation with example usages and all that, as the API is large enough that it would be its own undertaking, and when I have that kind of time I usually prefer to spend it actually programming. Which makes the API larger. It's a vicious cycle.

howfie wrote:oh ok, cool, then i might download it then too he he he. what game was this again?

howfie wrote:usually there's a matrix set for the bind pose, which is separate from the animation data. you have to find it. sometimes it's not a matrix set either.

data = noePack("i"*numVerts, *[boneIndex]*numVerts)

MrAdults wrote:

howfie wrote:usually there's a matrix set for the bind pose, which is separate from the animation data. you have to find it. sometimes it's not a matrix set either.

Like I said, plenty of games don't use a bind pose, especially when vertices are in bone-local space. Also like I said, given that his verts are in bone-local space, he doesn't actually need the bind pose even if it exists separately.

Regarding transforming your verts ("fitting them to the skeleton"): Again like I mentioned some posts ago, you can skin model verts to a bone list with rapi.rpgSkinPreconstructedVertsToBones. It takes a list of NoeBones as input and operates on all committed vertices in the active RPG context. As indicated by my other post.

These valuable remarks of mine would be much more valuable if people would read them.

If you can't find per-vertex weight or index values, you'll find a per-vertex-chunk bone index or it'll be dictated by the chunk ordering or whatever else the format wants to do to provide it. If you don't have per-vertex values, you can generate a bytearray from a single value to bind using something like:

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data = noePack("i"*numVerts, *[boneIndex]*numVerts)

howfie wrote:rich, you really love making things more complex than they really are . did you look at the bon file this guy posted? he's got more problems than just figuring out which noesis function to call lol.